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ARCHIVE INTERVIEW WITH WILKO JOHNSON (FROM 2011)

9/3/2025

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WILKO JOHNSON
(Dr Feelgood)
Hound Dawg Issue 14, September 2011
 
One of the most eccentric characters in the history of rock, Wilko Johnson was a real one off. With his famous chopping guitar style, mad eyes and manic stage presence, Wilko pre dated the angry urgency of punk and arguably invented the genre itself. As the head axe man of Dr Feelgood, then as a Blockhead and eventual solo star, Wilko was a man for all seasons. When I spoke to him he was full of energy, humour and good spirit. A true icon of the guitar.
 
Do you still enjoy touring and how do you keep your energy up for them?
 
Well I don’t really know. Me, I’m a fairly morose sort of a person, and I spend most of my time wallowing around feeling sorry for myself. But I do think that when I step on to the stage I feel… I dunno I just feel like I’m living again. I suppose that’s it. You can be going to a gig and you think Oh man I don’t wanna go to this gig. I’d give a thousand pound not to go to this gig. But as soon as you get on to stage it all just starts happening and I dunno, I’m a sucker for it.
 
Has it always been that way then or is that just recently?
 
Uhhh…. Well it all goes back a long way dunnit? Probably that’s my modus operandi in recent times.
 
I think the way you sort of lose yourself on stage, that’s the main attraction and the main influence that people see in you. You just sort of go into a different zone don’t you?
 
Well I think that’s it. The minutes before you go on a stage... usually I pace about. I get terrible trouble about this. I do this pacing. I pace around. It’s always in an anti clockwise direction. I’ve even checked this out in Australia, right and it goes anti clockwise there so it’s nothing to do with the gravity or the motion of the earth or anything. I think it may be I’ve got one leg shorter than the other. You think, man you’re getting nervous and things like that. Then you walk out on the stage and you plug in…. 1, 2, 3, 4 and you just go into a different kind of consciousness I think. It’s a good place to go to.
 
Who were your first guitar heroes then?
 
Well when I first began playing I really didn’t know anything about music, this is in the early 60s, when the Beatles were emerging you know. I just didn’t know anything. Then I heard a Johnny Kidd and the Pirates record and I heard the guitar playing of Mick Green and I was knocked out by what he was doing and I thought “That’s what I wanna do!” From then on I wanted to play the guitar, not trying to copy Mick Green, but I certainly learnt a lot from listening to him.
 
But your playing style, has it always been unusual with the thumb? Or did you used to play with a pic?
 
I don’t use a plectrum and that’s because I am left handed and when I first started to play I was holding it backwards like Paul McCartney and Hendrix, and I was a really slow learner and I was crap and everything. After a while I decided to try and learn to play right handed, which is a very difficult thing to do because it sort of goes against all your instinct. But I really wanted to learn to play right handed. In the process, hanging on to a plectrum was too much so I just did without. There’s no musical reason for me not using a plectrum, probably the style I play is done better with a plectrum, but there you go, I got to do without. And bloody fingers and all sorts of things have resulted, you know…
 
The thing is, your style has come about by accident hasn’t it? But it’s been really influential over the years. Is it weird to think that guitarists are still influenced by you?
 
It’s always strange because I had my heroes and I’ve gone through this process to try and take on something from someone else and that and I know what that feels like. It’s strange when I encounter people who have come from an influence from me or other musicians I know of who have been influenced by me, it’s very flattering but kind of strange because I always think of my own playing as something that’s been bodged together from various influences without any serious purpose. So my playing seems a sort of rag bag in many ways. But if people are imitating it then it means people dig it, which is very, very nice!
 
The line ups you’ve been in, obviously Dr Feelgood, then The Solid Senders and Ian Dury and the Blockheads, the one you are in now seems more together and a lot more comfortable for you I think. I don’t know if that’s true or...
 
Well I must say that the band I’ve got now is absolutely far and away the best band I have ever had. I’ve been very lucky like this. As time has gone on and I’ve kind of succeeded or failed to whatever degree, the band I have got and the people around me have just got better and better. See, I’ve got Norman Watt-Roy on the bass and enough said. That guy on the bass is enough to make your band good. And now we got Dylan Howe on the drums... God he’s a good drummer! He is such a good drummer. And the band now is so good. I can just stop playing and clown about and the thing keeps going. As well as that the personalities are… Norman’s a very, very, very, very good bloke, as is Dylan, and we just got a kind of friendly relationship that I think it is just possible to absolutely enjoy playing and sod everything else. Just really enjoy it.
 
Was being in the Feelgoods different due to dynamics and personalities and characters and stuff?
 
I have to say that, certainly towards the end, there were serious personality clashes, which was a shame because Dr Feelgood, we started out as a local amateur band. We started a band for fun, just to play for kicks and we were very good mates. I like to look back on Dr Feelgood, the times we were together and all good friends and laughing a lot. As we got more successful and all that started happening, you get…. it sounds crummy, but it does turn into a bit of a strain. It just led to, I dunno… as I said earlier, I’m a bit of a miserable so-and-so and this isolated me a bit from the others and it just built up and up and became intolerable in the end which is a shame. A terrible shame. And I don’t really like to look back on that. I like to remember the good times and the good feelings, rather than the unhappy way it ended up.
 
Dr Feelgood were such a massive band at the time. Nowadays do you think the popularity is coming back because of the Julian Temple film, Oil City Confidential?
 
Certainly that film has given a boost to our activities and yes Dr Feelgood did kind of get lost in history. The whole punk movement followed hard on the heels of Dr Feelgood and we split up just after that time. And it kind of meant that just at that moment, the Feelgoods were forgotten about in many ways. Julian Temple felt this and one of the reasons he wanted to make the film was to try and make that good. I think it’s a great film and has introduced a lot of people to Dr Feelgood, something they didn’t know about before, which is nice.
 
I think your energy in the documentary is the most engaging part of it, because you are so enthusiastic about it.
 
Well it is great! When I was first told that Julian Temple wanted to do this film, I was quite surprised that this famous film maker wanted to do something about us... that was a surprise. My other thought was how on earth can he do it? Dr Feelgood existed in the pre video days and very little footage exists. And I’m thinking how can he do it? I took part in it, he was making the film but I didn’t see anything of the film. When it was completed they gave me a DVD but I didn’t look at it. I am always a bit weird about listening to my own records or watching myself. In the end when the film was premiered, I obviously had to go and see it and the film started... well, it was great! Because it was something long ago for me, I was looking at it as a kind of spectator. I had never seen Dr Feelgood before if you like and seeing the live bits up there on the screen I was thinking Bloody hell, pretty good! Yeah, all around pretty good. Certainly done us a lot of good that film.
 
That line up was brilliant though wasn’t it?
 
Absolutely! There has been a noticeable effect, a whole kind of new audience that didn’t know about me or Dr feelgood before this time. We like plenty of people to come in!
 
So you’re looking forward to touring then?
 
Oh yeah, yeah. Form the depths of my misery.
 
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A TRIBUTE TO HARRIS YULIN: INTERVIEW SNIPPETS AND MOVIE INSIGHTS

6/12/2025

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I am saddened to hear of the passing of the great American actor, Harris Yulin. Film and TV buffs will know him from all sorts of thingss, like Ghostbusters 2, Frasier, X Files, Narrow Margin, Another Woman, Scarface, Night Moves, Bean.... so many great credits. 
   I was lucky enough to interview Mr Yulin a few times. Below are some snippets from the chats and email Q and As we had....
​RIP HARRIS.....

YULIN ON "END OF THE ROAD" (1969)
Harris Yulin recalled to me the that both he and Stacy Keach were doubling the shooting of END OF THE ROAD with stage work. “Stacy was playing Falstaff and I was rehearsing a new play called The Cannibals, so we would often drive in after the shoot, he’d get made up in the car and I’d go to my rehearsal. The driver would pick us up and we’d get back about 1:30 or 2, be up at 5 or 6 to shoot. It was a good thing we were young! It was pretty exhausting. But yeah, we got tired. Still, we were having a good time.”
Harris also had very vivid memories of making the film: He recalled: “Me and Stacy had become good friends by then. We had done a play together. End of the Road was pretty funny. Stacy and James Earl had been shooting for probably about three weeks before I got there. They were doing his part of the movie, then I came up to shoot my part. When I got there they had pretty much finished the first part, and Gordon Willis the cinematographer took me to see what they had done thus far, some of the footage. And it was so beautiful I was amazed and struck by it, kind of intimidated as well. The work was so beautiful. So it was the night before the shoot when I was doing my first scene. I confessed some confusion to the director, Aram, and asked me, Have you ever read Being and Nothingness?, Satre’s book, and I said I hadn’t. I had an image of it in my mind of it being very thick. And I said, Well no, and he said, Read it! Of course, this was midnight and we were meant to shoot at six o’clock. It didn’t leave me a lot of time to read the book, so I had to go without it. We were shooting, and the first scene was the walk Stacy and I do together from the interview. He has the interview to become the teacher, and I am on the board that interviews him. And after the interview, we walk together down the hallway. So the first thing we shot was not the interview, but the walk after the interview. It was a very typical introduction to movies, shooting something that is the result of something you haven’t yet played.  I was in my boy scout uniform, and they later got that shot of me swinging naked from a rope into a river with my boy scout troop. That was my introduction into the film, but we hadn’t shot that either, just this out of the blue walking scene. I think Stacy recommended I try to change steps, or something like that. If you notice in the shot, in the walk I change steps to get in or out of step, a little jump sort of. And I thought that was  good idea, at least something to do. I did it and Aram said to me, What the fuck was that? I said, Well I dunno, just a little change of step, I don’t know! He said, Can we do it again without that? So we did. But that little skip stayed in the movie and became sort of thematic in a way. That was my introduction to film.”
After it was released, the film infamously shocked some movie-goers. “It was pretty exciting at the screenings,” Harris told me. “In New York, it generated a lot of comment and a lot of excitement. It was at the same time as Midnight Cowboy. I remember there were some people saying, You got a better than Midnight Cowboy. I mean, nobody would say that now. But the release wasn’t handled well, it was sold to the wrong people who tried to put it out as an exploitation kind of thing - sex, violence, nudity, all that.  It didn’t work at the time, but the film lives.” I mentioned that the film has a cult following now, despite some critical bashing at the time, to which Harris hilariously replied: “Yeah (laughs), you just gotta wait a while… gotta out-live the bastards!”


YULIN ON "DOC" (1971)
Harris Yulin had mixed memories of making Doc (the western co starring Faye Dunaway and Stacy Keach) when I spoke to him about the picture: “Doc was hell to make. It was enjoyable but also not. Enjoyable being in Spain and everything which is not a hardship, but doing the film, we had a lot of disagreements and a lot of changes. I remember starting and I saw the designs for Wyatt’s costumes, and they were all fancy, it looked sort of like a clown, a Wild West performer. I said, What the fuck is all this? So we had to get that straightened out. There were all kinds of things that needed to be sorted out. I know there were things I disagreed with and Stacy disagreed with too. We spent a lot of time, as I recall, staying up very late re-writing the next day’s material. Pete Hammil who wrote it wasn’t there, and our feeling at that time, both Stacy and mine, was that Frank Perry didn’t really know what he was doing in terms of shooting a western. There was a lot of uncertainty. One day we came in to shoot the interiors in Madrid, and it was a scene where Stacy and I were to have a scene round a fire. All I remember is what was there just wasn’t right. We couldn’t come up with a solution. Frank said, What are you gonna do? We said, We don’t know! We have no ideas. So we didn’t do anything. When we got back to New York we shot a camp fire scene in Central Park instead. It was a confusing time, but interesting too, many interesting elements. It was kind of a rough shoot.”

YULIN ON "WATCHED" (1973)
WATCHED is avery obscure, drugged up 70s movie, with Stacy Keach and Harris Yulin having the time sof their lives....
  Yulin told me: I’ve not seen Watched. It was a wild time. Drugs, sex, rock and roll… The best time was editing the film, which we did for some weeks. Our edit was not used, but we had a great time.”
   After that email I sent Harris the film on YouTube. Going into more detail on the phone, Harris recalled: “I took another look at it, a few minutes of it, and I have to say I have very little memory of doing any of it. Stacy and I cut a very different version of it, I remember. We had a cut and we spent six weeks cutting it together, which had nothing to with the story that - I guess - is being told. It was completely different. It was all improvised. There was a script that said, He goes here, he goes there. Basically that. All improvised, and when we took a look at the footage we realised it was pretty silly, so we went with the silliness and doubled down on the absurdity of it. We had a great time, just tons of fun in the cutting room for six weeks. I thought it was hilarious but it only ran to about forty minutes. We would have had to go and do more shooting. But the producer, John Parsons, found nothing fun in our cut. It was a kind of assault - or a mockery, let’s say a mockery, I have to admit.“

These interviews are taken from the book, STACY KEACH ON SCREEN, which you can get online...

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ROMERO'S "SEASON OF THE WITCH", PLUS INTERVIEW WITH ITS STAR, JOEDDA McCLAIN

1/18/2025

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This is taken from my book, GEORGE A ROMERO ON SCREEN, which features lots of cool interviews with Romero collaborators and reviews of each movie.

SEASON OF THE WITCH...
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In the supposed "lost era" of Romero's career, in between the releases of Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead, the man most know as the King of the Zombies made some pretty interesting films to say the least. These movies were varied, colourful, bold and daring, and unfortunately none of them have got even half of the credit they deserve. Season of the Witch was another low budget flick, this one released in 1973, and it's also gone out under the titles Hungry Wives and Jack's Wife. Season of the Witch though, you have to admit, is a much more eye catching title.
   "There's Always Vanilla and Jack's Wife were seen by very few people," Romero said in one recent interview, "and I am not sure what my fans today would make of them. Maybe they'll see a little bit of my style, maybe they'll see a little bit of my head in there. There is always something instinctive. You can look at an artist's work and you can maybe see a little something there."
   Romero had a point. Season of the Witch (the title I am going to refer to this film by) may not seem totally typical a subject matter for Romero, our zombie godfather, but there is much more to him than the stumbling undead. He is a masterful director in the truest sense and his movies are never thrown together in the slightest. If you compare his Dead movies to straight to video or B movie zombie flicks of the 80s and 90s, the comparisons are non existent. He never liked zombies for zombies sake, they were always a tool for metaphors and subtext. But when you think of the camera angles, the way he gets you inside the story, in the depth of the characters' desperate situations, he is a few miles above even the most notable horror filmmakers. He establishes a mood of fear, dread and utter hopelessness, but never gets us too bogged down in the negative aspects of the dichotomies the characters are stuck in. He may use gore, but never as the premier attraction. It's usually as a way to remind you that the fear the characters are feeling is justified and they are very much in danger.
   But Season of the Witch definitely stands alone in his filmography, although stylistically it is very much a Romero movie. The direction brings to mind some of the most chilling moments of Night of the Living Dead, so even a complete zombie junkie will find something to take away from a picture such as this.
   What hinders the wide discovery of this film was its messy release. Filmed as Jack's Wife, Romero and his small reliable crew were intent on shooting a proper study of the realm of the occult with their tiny $100,000 budget. However, the film's distributor got busy with the film reels, cutting out integral scenes and putting it out into the world as a kind of soft core porno flick under the title Hungry Wives. It went out in 1973 to a mostly muted response. In fact it wasn't until he made good with Dawn of the Dead in 1978 that the film was rereleased and of course reappraised under its new title Season of the Witch. With such a muddled past, perhaps one can see why Romero never fully accepts it as a proper part of his filmography.
   The film takes place in Pittsburgh, where bored wife Joan Mitchell (played by Jan White) gets tired of her violent, sexist husband's ways. As she and her friends discover a new mysterious addition to the neighbourhood, Marion (Virginia Greenwald), Joan begins to learn about witchcraft. After a tarot reading, it is revealed that Marion is the leader of a witches' coven. When Joan grows even lonelier and more frustrated, she obtains a book about witchcraft. She puts a spell on the man who is seeing her daughter, Gregg (Raymond Laine again), so that he becomes attracted to her. In between this, Joan has consistently horrific nightmares and in the end, kills her husband, before joining Marion's coven.
    As straight forward horror, Season of the Witch is not exactly frightening. Instead, it deals with the occult in a more literal and intelligent way, and is never over the top nor totally unbelievable. Where the movie is perhaps more interesting is in its underlying subtext. Clearly, Romero  is using the witches coven as a symbolic manifestation of the women's movement, the witches being feminists rising up against their sexist and dominating males. Romero using feminism in film is nothing radical for him though; in many ways he was one of the first forward thinking, radical, casually feminist directors in the horror genre, or any genre for that matter.
   Romero's feminist leanings didn't begin right away in his first film though, at least not by his own choice. Like his openness to casting black lead actors, his knack of writing strong female characters developed over time. In Night of the Living Dead, Barbra is little more than a catatonic cardboard cut out, as much a zombie as the creeping flesh eaters outside the barn. She's the quintessential horror film chick, running and screaming from the creatures, then being no use to herself or anyone through most of the picture. Gaylen Ross's character in Dawn of the Dead however, as pregnant and morning sick as she is throughout, is not a screamer, nor a hopeless fleer of the dead. Even if it's only due to the fact that Gaylen refused to scream as the script wished her to, she was a step towards Sigourney Weaver in Alien territory. Season of the Witch then, put out before Dawn to little fan fair, was more direct in its revolutionary approach, how conscious or unconscious it all was.
   The AV Club saw it as a long lost cousin to Ang Lee's acclaimed movie The Ice Storm, in as much that both films, in very different ways, reflect a changing time in early 70s suburbia, exploring the forbidden and the mysterious goings on in what appears to be the average neighbourhood. I would liken it to the 1985 Madonna hit Desperately Seeking Susan, which of course seems to be a very odd comparison on the surface. Yet in that film, Rosanna Arquette plays an upper middle class housewife, bored of her marriage to a wealthy business man. Her friends might envy her for all the shallow materialism of her life, but she is trapped and seeks escapism. Whereas Arquette's character chooses to follow the exotic life of wild child Susan (Madonna), whose adventures she follows in the local paper, Joan Mitchell the hungry wife turns to the liberating power of witchcraft. So is this horror? Is this a film of witchcraft and the occult? Yes and no. Again, Romero is simply using the horror template to explore something with more depth. Whereas he seemed a little lost in the midst of There's Always Vanilla - a film much closer to Brian De Palma's early New York art house pictures (Hi Mom and Greetings, both starring a young Robert De Niro) than anything Romeroesque - Season of the Witch feels like a Romero film, and he is very much in his own territory.
   Although the original cut is not in existence (despite the odd deleted scene popping up here and there), the currently available version of the film is the closest we will get to Romero's vision. There are some undeniably good scenes, up there with George's finest cinematic stand outs. The mood he sets in the scene when Joan hears her daughter having an orgasm during the storm is utterly uncomfortable and powerful, especially when you consider the fact she is actually semi-masturbating to the sound of her daughter making love. But it's the shadows that cast and the imposing statues in close up which make the scene truly unforgettable. She is the ultimate bored housewife, reduced to getting off on her own daughter getting her rocks off. Again, as in Night of the Living Dead, Romero blows apart the established standard dynamic of the family household; disturbing and delighting in equal measure.
   "There’s only one that I would like to remake which is actually the third film that I made, called Season of the Witch," Romero told Cinema Blend, "and I didn’t have enough money to do it well and I think that I could really do a good job with it today. I’ve sort of been noodling on an updated script for it, but it’s the only one that I would even think about remaking. Most of my stuff was sort of of-the-time."
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Q AND A WITH JOEDDA McCLAIN
(STAR OF SEASON OF THE WITCH)

 
How did you end up getting the part in Romero's Season of the Witch?
 
I was 21, working as a model , doing commercials and voice over work in Pittsburgh. Pa. My agent told me about the casting call. There were a lot of girls, I was shocked when I got the part. At that point in George's career Living Dead was not a cult film yet. He was not being viewed as a serious filmmaker. When I first met him I thought he was very cool and funny. At the interview there was a lot of joking and banter. 
 
Do you remember the first day on set?
 
I was a nervous wreck the 1st day. The 2 leads were N Y actors. I was very anxious about my inexperience. Everyone was very professional . That was a crazy time, I expected to have some confrontations about sexual advances That was pretty standard at the time. Nothing like that happened. It was a FIRST!!  I was really happy working with the whole cast.
 
What was he like to work with?
 
George definitely had a vision; he could see the film in his mind. We worked long days, he was very interesting and present.
 
Did you like the film when you saw it?
 
I was definitely disappointed with the finished product. I think George wanted the film to be dark, a twisted look at current lifestyles. A lot was left on the cutting room floor. I doubt any of us felt it looked like we were expecting. It was altogether a time of growth and expansion for me. I was very grateful for the opportunity.  I never saw George again after the screening party. When his career became such a cult following, I was happy to say I worked with him.
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CULT MOVIE SPOTLIGHT: BRUCE CAMPBELL'S "THE MAN WITH THE SCREAMING BRAIN"

12/9/2024

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If you're looking for a film that's so entertaining it ought to be a crime, then The Man with the Screaming Brain (2005) is well worth seeking out, one of the funniest and most enjoyable horror comedies released in the past few decades. Written, directed by and starring the great Bruce Campbell - he of Evil Dead fame and much, much more besides - the picture features Campbell himself as an arrogant yuppie who ends up in Bulgaria on a business trip. The legendary Stacy Keach is Dr Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov, a wild eyed scientist who has a plan to insert two brains into one man’s head, to see if they will operate independently from one another. A mystical gypsy hired by the mad doctor is sent out to find an extra brain, and eventually she slays a cab driver, whose brain is inserted into Campbell’s noggin. Ivan is ecstatically happy that the plan has worked, but unfortunately Campbell panics and escapes. The plot becomes more ludicrously imaginative from here on, which is really saying something.
   The story was originally written by Campbell, David Goodman and Sam Raimi, and its genesis went as far back as the mid 1980s. Twenty years on, Campbell eventually got the project together himself, though not without had work and toil. He had directed before this of course, including shorts and TV episodes, but this film proved how talented he was as a feature director. Highly creative behind and in front of the camera, as in his other cult classic My Name is Bruce (one of the most entertaining films you will ever see, in my view), Campbell proved himself to an all rounder. Here he lovingly pays homage to the B movies of Roger Corman and other filmmakers. Played with over the top yet highly controlled precision, the whole cast are splendid, especially Campbell himself as the arrogant suit turned science experiment freak. It is Keach who puts in the craziest effort, though, playing the crazy haired Bulgarian doctor to a tee.
   Asked about working on the film in one interview, Keach clearly had fond memories: “Oh, Bruce (laughing). He’s a great guy and I love working with Bruce Campbell. He was excellent as a director. I always love working with good actors who decide to try their hands at directing. Generally speaking, they’re the best because they understand the process. He knew his way around the camera and he’s a great storyteller. Bruce is an extremely talented guy and I’m so very happy for all of his success.”
   When I asked Bruce Campbell himself how he got Stacy Keach involved in the film (for a book I did on Keach's filmography), he told me, “He was suggested by my producer. I said yes, of course, because of his track record. I knew that he was a well-regarded actor for decades.” On directing Keach, Campbell said, “He was great. He was totally on board. I respected his process, so I made sure to have my shit wired as a director. I handled that by being ready as a director. I didn’t want to waste his time. He was a pro. I’m a pro. We got along because of our mutual professionalism. Stacy was a dream. Actors and directors don’t always get along, but we did via mutual respect."
   The Man with the Screaming Brain, if you don't love it already, is highly recommended essential Campbell. His huge filmography contains many gems (the Evil Dead films, Bubba Ho Tep, My Name is Bruce, and much more) and countless memorable cameos (Congo, Escape from LA, The Quick and the Dead), but for me The Man with the Screaming Brain is up there with his finest work. 
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INTERVIEW WITH JEFF BRIDGES (FROM 2022)

11/11/2024

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So... here's my 2022 interview with the great JEFF BRIDGES, all about his part in STAY HUNGRY. The interview was conducted for a book about the films of Bob Rafelson....
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​“IT’S SO OUT-THERE!”
JEFF BRIDGES ON STAY HUNGRY

 

Jeff Bridges is one of the most iconic American screen actors of the past fifty years. Emerging in the early 1970s in a string of pictures, including The Last Picture Show (co-produced by Bob Rafelson) and Fat City, Rafelson cast Bridges in his film adaptation of Charles Gaines’ 1972 novel, Stay Hungry. I got the chance to ask Jeff a few questions all about the making of the film and working with Bob Rafelson.
 
How did you get the part in Stay Hungry?
 
Hey Chris! Gosh! Now this is all so long ago. I’m trying to think back now… Well, it all started with The Last Picture Show, which Bob’s company produced. BBS. God, what other company is named after the people’s first names? I loved that! The Last Picture Show was one of their big productions, so Bob was aware of me from that. And it kind of fell into place. I can’t recall exactly. It must have been through my agent though. It all started with Picture Show…
 
Bob Rafelson was such a wildly creative man. Were you excited to be working with him, especially given the great films he had already been a part of?
 
Oh God yeah, of course! I remember seeing the trailer for Head and feeling knocked out, and saying, What the hell is going on? The trailer ended with them saying, You have just been given three minutes of head! I thought, This is wild. I was a big Beatles fan, so the Monkees were an Americanised version of them. And seeing The Monkees in Victor Mature’s hair! Yeah, I was excited. I mean, Five Easy Pieces, that’s when I got turned on to country music, which was a weird way. But hearing Stand By Your Man, that got me turned on to it, so did The Last Picture Show actually. But yeah, all of Bob’s movies were so intriguing and Bob was such a wild guy. And then Stay Hungry was Sally Field’s first movie. So that was good. She might have done The Flying Nun, but maybe not the more dramatic pieces. Sally was great to work with too.
What was he like as a director? Was it a fruitfully creative relationship you had with him during filming?
 
Oh, he was totally open. He was one of those guys that really encouraged input from all over the place. I just remember having a wonderful time with him, and we kind of empowered each other. I empowered him to have power over me (Laughs). He allowed me to influence his thoughts as well.
 
The film has such a varied cast - yourself, Arnold, Sally Field, Robert Englund, the body-builders, etc. The last time I did a Q and A with you, you told me a lot of your early movies were quite “out there”. Just looking at the cast there, I imagine Stay Hungry was a stimulating experience.
 
Oh my God, yes, it was stimulating. And you got to throw in the writer, Gaines. I mean, Arnold had just done Pumping Iron before that too. I loved his performance in Stay Hungry. It was a wild experience, man. One thing comes to mind, probably one of the funniest things that ever happened to me in movies. I don’t know if I can describe it properly. It was a shot of me doing an exercise called a Toe Raiser. Arnold is playing my trainer in the shot, and he was sitting on my back while I go up and down with my toes, a calf exercise. And we are talking about the girlfriend. He says, It’s OK, love has its own ways, etc. And the camera was positioned in a way so that it looked like we were having anal sex (Laughs). You know, that Arnold was giving it to me up the heiny. But none of us knew it would look like that until we saw the dailies. In the dailies it looked like my legs were his legs and his legs were my legs. Can you get the picture? I don’t think it’s in the movie but I thought it was a great way of dealing with the homosexual thing about body building. You know, you see this thing, it’s in your mind and then the illusion breaks and no, my legs are mine and his are his, and not the other way around. I don’t know if you can get that image Chris, but it was amazing seeing the dailies. In those days, dailies were a wonderful form of entertainment and celebration. All the artists and crew could get together and say, Look what we did the day before. That doesn’t happen now. It was so much fun and we’d all have dinner and watch dailies. We don’t do it now, because it’s instant and you see it on digital right away. It used to be wonderful.
 
I find that Stay Hungry is a film that often gets overlooked in Rafelson’s filmography, but it definitely has its admirers. Do people mention the film to you at all, and do you ever meet people who recall it with fondness?
 
Yeah, you’re right, very rarely. I don’t think too many people have seen it. But it’s so out-there! Such a weird thing. Body builders running through the street. RG Armstrong’s rape scene with nitrous oxide. It was such a wild, wild thing!
 
How do you look back on Bob Rafelson now? Do you think he gets the credit he deserves for the films he made and what he achieved?
 
No, I don’t think he does. I don’t think any of us get any credit for how brilliant we are in life! (Laughs) We are all so unique and special and so un-special and un-unique all at the same time. A lot of people get passed over, some people get over praised. We are all praise worthy. But Bob, man, I dug his unique quality. He excelled as a director and a producer, excelled on so many levels. Producers are so important and they can vary in their purpose. They can be a classic executive producer that just has his name on the screen for some reason, who doesn’t even do anything. But a producer who DOES do something… In my view what a real producer can do is support the director’s vision. Like on The Last Picture Show, Bob gave Peter Bogdanovich a chance to direct. He had only done Targets before that, with Boris Karloff, which was very low budget. I remember Peter calling them up, BBS, and saying, Can we have just one more day in our budget? And their response back was, I want you to take three days and do a really great job. And also, How is your weed supply? How are you holding up? They were so supportive, you’d ask for their support and they would just surpass your expectations. That was Bob’s way as a producer. And as a director, he had that same feeling. Anything is possible! What do you think? What you got Jeff, any ideas? We had a great time, man! A lot of the celebration I feel can be summed up in the dance routine at the fiddler’s party when they broke out the moonshine. I had some of that moonshine too, on the day, which I think is quite evident! But Bob was a wonderful guy to work with.
OK, is that it? All right Chris, I hope this helps out. Good luck. Toodle-oo! 
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INTERVIEW WITH PETER RICHARDSON (COMIC STRIP PRESENTS) - FROM 2023

10/21/2024

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Peter Richardson has been a hero of mine for decades now, and it's been a goal of mine to speak to him about my love for his iconic creation, The Comic Strip Presents. Below is my Jan 2023 interview with the great man about the many highlights of his career. 
This interview appeared in SCENES ISSUE 8...


The day I spoke to Peter for this homage, I was expecting his call around mid-day. Come tea time (very English, you understand), I still hadn’t heard from him. I retired to the garden to read and relax, and then from indoors I heard the phone ring. I didn’t recognise the number. I picked it up, said “Hello?” in a sort of poxy way, and then heard the unmistakable voice of Peter Richardson. This was the man from dozens of Comic Strip films - who’d played Mr Chipstick, Mr Lovebucket, Tiny Townsend, Spider Webb - whose work I had enjoyed for years. He had been in the editing suite all day working and was driving home. Immediately, he was so decent and open with me I felt as if I’d known him for years. He’d been editing together a compilation of his favourite scenes from the Comic Strip films for a little mini documentary to accompany the films’ presence on Britbox. Right away, the conversation was interesting.
 
So you’re picking all your favourite bits? That’s cool.
 
Yeah, it took a lot of time to get them right. It’s basically the best scenes leading into interviews. It’s not going to be a documentary, more of a celebration with members of the cast and fans like Eddie Izzard and Harry Enfield and others. It’s pretty good actually. I’ll send you a copy.
 
Was it hard to choose your favourite scenes?
 
Yeah. Some films have good clips in them. They may not be great films but they do have good bits. Others work as a whole but they don’t really have great clips. Like The Strike for example, it’s very hard to pick funny clips out of it.
 
Yeah, because you kind of have to take it in its entirety really don’t you?
 
You do. And something like Wild Turkey, it’s not that great but it has some funny sequences in it. It’s actually really enjoyable and maybe makes you think, God, I really wanna see that. I mean, people might be disappointed though (laughs)!
 
Oh no, I love that one. There’s not any Comic Strip films that I don’t like. They get better as they go along, they get sharper on a technical level as you become a better director, too. You obviously learned your craft from watching Bob Spiers and the directors of the earlier episodes…
 
Yeah, Bob did the studio stuff. We collaborated together actually. He’d made films before, and he had a lot of experience working with actors, getting coverage and stuff. He was more of a telly guy. He wasn’t really a filmmaker.
 
What about Stephen Frears? He did a couple of Comic Strip films. Did you learn a lot from him?
 
He was inspiring. He’s quite rough with actors (laughs).

I’ve interviewed Stephen before and he was really nice to me. I was in his house interviewing him for a documentary and he was really lovely. But I’m not an actor, so maybe I got off lightly.
 
Oh, he’s lovely. But he’s funny, because he’ll say things like, Oh stop acting and go faster!
 
I suppose Stephen leaves actors alone. He says, I’ve hired them knowing what they can do, let them get on with it.
 
Exactly. Let them do what they do. That’s the best way to do it.
 
Are any actors you’ve worked with been a little daunting, or more difficult to work with than others?
 
No, actually, because I’ve usually gotten people who I’ve wanted. I’d know what they were capable of and what they would do. Sometimes we’d stretch ourselves and do some things we weren’t used to doing.
 
Well there are some very avant-garde Comic Strip films. Like Les Dogs for instance. That’s one that I feel is very European. Were you influenced by any of the classic European directors?
 
Oh, well I had seen this Luis Bunuel film. It had this army driving into a village. The guy gets out, runs up to this woman, salutes her and says, I wanna tell you about this dream I had last night (laughs). I just enjoyed the surrealness. I did have fun with that on Les Dogs. I re-cut it actually after it had been on telly, to make more sense of it. I think it was a better film after that. That’s one of the films I’ve shown in these clip shows actually.
 
You’ve always struck me as the kind of guy who doesn’t like to look back too much, who’s always on to the next project.
 
Oh yeah, I love it. I’ve got so many projects coming and going, trying to get them made. It’s harder to get them made now. I’m dealing with telly people who weren’t even born when we made the first one! It’s weird. I was gonna do an anniversary thing for Channel 4. It’s all changed so much now, the controllers have often had no experience doing comedy at all. It’s difficult to deal with them. They’re like, Yeah, could you do something different, it isn’t quite what we’re looking for. And I say, Well this is what I want to do for our 40th anniversary, but, you know, Channel 4 say, Well, it isn’t really what we’re looking for. No trust any more, zero trust. Some of these people don’t really know the Comic Strip anyway, so they don’t really have any respect for it.
 
Call me naive but I thought your reputation might have given you a little bit of power.
 
No, because some of them don’t even have a clue who I am. It turned out that one of these people I’m talking about, who’d never heard of me, had actually worked with me before, being an assistant on The Hunt for Tony Blair, but she must have forgotten. In the old days they trusted you. If you fucked up they’d be realistic and say, Oh maybe don’t work for us in the future. But basically they trusted you. And we didn’t mess up with Channel 4. We kept on making stuff they liked. It was interesting. Always different.
 
I was talking to Daniel Peacock recently and he said The Comic Strip and Channel 4 were perfect for each other back then. They were both experimental and on the edge. It was almost a perfect marriage really wasn’t it?
 
Oh yeah, it was. It all changed when Michael Grade took over, it sort of fell apart for us with him. He basically wanted us to do sitcom stuff. Sitcom was more for the BBC; the Comic Strip were films. He wanted us to change the format really. So we went to the BBC and made films there, until they got bored of us (laughs)! So then we went back to Channel 4, then on to Gold. We might be going back to Channel 4 again now. I’ve still got plenty of ideas going.
 
I really wanted to pick your brains as a filmmaker, if you don’t mind. I think that when you watch the very early stuff, you see all the rawness. Then when you begin to direct, the films become much more sharp and focused, directorially. Nigel said to me how impressed he was when you were making Four Men on a Plane, and that opening sequence, that was like the start of Touch of Evil, a really sophisticated shot.
 
I did always like those things, those kinds of shots. You know, people love Martin Scorsese spending five minutes on one shot or something. But for me it was an exercise in making things happen in one glorious move, with the dialogue all in there and stuff. And it’s very fun. To be honest, if it goes right, those types of shots are a great thing to do. On a comedy it probably isn’t the best way to work, doing the showy stuff, because you’ve got to control all the jokes and everything. It’s a very director-based choice. It’s nice that Nigel thought that, though. I enjoyed doing it too.
 
I love those two films, Four Men in a Car and Four Men on a Plane, because they have the early anarchic spirit of the first films, combined with the almost cinematic style. I can see the film buff in them. Did you always want to make films?
 
Yeah, I used to make films on 8mm when I was young. My folks had a camera and I liked putting together little films. I did start making films when I was young, little silent films. I wasn’t too aware of any directors specifically. I enjoyed shooting them but I never thought, Oh this might be like so-and-so. I just enjoyed watching films. I wasn’t hoping to be like anyone. But it seemed like such a far-off thing as well, living in Dartmoor, to want to be a filmmaker. I mean, how do you do that? There was no one in my family, my neighbourhood, no one in my town who I knew who was in professional theatre or film. So I was out on a limb there.
 
I suppose the roots of your comedy is in The Outer Limits with Nigel. So going from that more primitive act on stage to becoming what I see as a maker of sophisticated films, that’s quite a journey.  It’s quite remarkable. It must be strange to look back.
 
Yeah, well, I think it’s like with anything. Sometimes there’s luck involved more than anything else. I thought the fairly recent Hunt for Tony Blair worked really well, whereas Five Go to Rehab wasn’t a great film. It’s more of a case of not always getting it right. It’s unpredictable, making films, because you never really know how it’s gonna turn out. Some things gel, if it’s the right actors and the right script. The music. All that. How the jokes work, the subject matter. I know we’ve done well with the satires like Red Badge of Courage, GLC, Strike, and everything, they’ve always been successful for us. Satire always worked well for me, making fun of the establishment.
 
Well I think you reinvented satire really. You made these political satires but as cinema. Like you playing Lee van Cleef playing Tony Benn (laughs), there’s so many different layers to it. On paper, you might think it might not work, but when you see it, it all gels. When did you start thinking about writing comedy in those terms, in this multi layered way?
 
Yeah, I suppose it was multi layered actually, wasn’t it? I mean, in particular GLC and The Strike were definitely down that road. The Hunt for Tony Blair was parodying black and white films like Sunset Boulevard and The Third Man, just little parodies of them. We weren’t slavishly copying them or anything. I suppose if you didn’t know those films you wouldn't get the parodies. Like with Jennifer (Saunders), mixing Gloria Swanson and Margaret Thatcher (laughs).
 
And in the GLC episode you’ve got Jennifer playing Brigitte Nielsen playing Thatcher. It’s fantastic. Growing up watching films like that, I kind of took it for granted a little. Only when you show those films to other people, they might think they are a bit surreal and even avant grade. Maybe that ties in with the idea of modern TV people not really getting what you do, because it isn’t straight forward stuff at all.
 
Yeah, I suppose you’re right. It’s broad satire in parts, getting us to play American film stars playing political figures. I mean, that’s the joke really isn’t it? Charles Bronson, Lee Van Cleef, Al Pacino. When we did the film Eat the Rich, there was a line in the film about Pacino playing Arthur Scargill. And we thought, We should actually do that! So it was just a funny thought to us.
 
I love a lot of the performances in the films. Nigel Planer, I think, is just an amazing actor. He does so many chameleon performances. Were you surprised how good he became?
 
Nigel was always a really good actor. I mean, Rik and Ade were never really actors, it was sort of using their personalities in a comedic way. Adrian did a very good John Major actually, and the Diary of a Nutcase film and Supergrass. They were genuine performances, proper acting roles, and he was great.
 
Do you think that in giving all these roles to your mates, you kind of set them up a training ground for their futures as actors and performers? Even Robbie Coletrane really blossoms in the Comic Strip movies and becomes the great actor he is. Were you aware they were becoming bigger deals?

Oh yeah, and very aware they were all becoming unavailable (laughs)! So yeah, they were all beginning to get their own stuff and getting them all together was a problem. With Robbie, it was a case of, Well I won’t be around to do Comic Strip now, I’m doing Cracker and all this. He wasn’t available anymore. That’s when I started to have to branch out and use other people, broaden the group a bit. And it was great because we worked with some great people, like Jim Broadbent, Miranda Richardson, people like that. A lot of fun. It was always changing and always growing.
 
One guy that sticks out for me is Keith Allen. He gave so many great performances in the films but he was always off to one side, as if he wasn’t a part of the group. But you and him worked really together on the films, especially the Detective on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown.
 
He is a renegade. But I really enjoyed working with Keith. He was never going to a part of the group though. We did some great stuff together and he’s really funny. I thought we worked well together, and we even co-directed! You can’t get two bigger egos than me and Keith Allen (laughs)!
 
How did you even get that film done?
 
Weirdly, we worked in harmony. We just had one row over one scene, and then a row over cutting it. Generally we worked well. We compliment each other in a good way.
 
What I like about the Comic Strip films is they are really open. Even if you haven’t written and directed them, you are happy for them to go out under the Comic Strip banner.
 
Yeah. Well, Rik and Ade were the only ones who did some really successful ones, like Bad News and Mr Jolly Lives Next Door. Some of the other ones that other people wrote just didn’t work too well. They were probably better as sketches, some of them, so it was harder for some of the writers to move into the longer form of a full film, given they were used to writing sketches.
 
You mentioned Mr Jolly Lives Next Door. That film is sort of proto-Bottom really isn’t it?
 
Oh yeah, it was proto-Bottom. Peter Cook was in it too. He was glad to be asked to be in it as well, actually.
 
Are there any of the films you like better now than when you first made them?
 
Yes, actually. There are some I had written off and then saw later and thought they were pretty good. I watched some I hadn’t seen for thirty years and I thought, I really like this one. I liked Queen of the Wild Frontier a lot. I found it quite touching. I liked the story and thought it actually looked great too. It was very close to me that one, based on some people I knew. I also liked Oxford as well, which I had written off. GLC as well, I thought that worked really well. I didn’t like some of the early ones. I didn’t like the Beat Generation that much, I found it disappointing. Five Go Mad on Mescaline - awful. Now, what else did I hate (laughs)? So it was more the early ones I didn’t like as much. Bad News was obviously good, but I liked the second series more, like Gino and Fistful of Traveler’s Cheques.
 
But you must be proud of the body of work, all those subjects and styles that you explored, so many wonderful films…
 
Oh thank you, Chris. I do think The Hunt for Tony Blair was one of our best.
 
I just hope there are going to be some more…
 
Hopefully there will be! 
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Q AND A WITH CHRISTOPHER MATTHEW, ON HIS WRITING CAREER

9/29/2024

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The prolific writer and broadcaster talks to Chris Wade about poetry, writing, and some of his personal favourite projects.
 
Did you always want to be a writer?
 
For many years and for some unimaginable reason, I had ambitions to be an actor. A performer, anyway. My dreams seemed to be on the point of unfolding when, within weeks of arriving at university in 1960, I was invited to perform a comic turn in a university ‘smoker.’ These intimate revues were all the rage in those days following the huge success of Beyond the Fringe and I couldn’t believe my luck when I was to be invited the following summer to join a gang called the Oxford Players at the fledgling Edinburgh Festival Fringe.
   In the tiny Wilkie House Theatre we put on a musical based on The Plutus of Aristophanes, followed by a late night revue called In Revue Order, which starred many of those who would shortly become the founders of Private Eye, among them Richard Ingrams, Willy Rushton (known in those days as Bill), Andrew Osmond (the first owner) and Candida Betjeman.
   Being only at the end of my first year at university, I was unable to join them, but the taste for satire was still very much in my mouth - until I met a theatrical agent who told me I wouldn’t spend my life being permanently out of work. So in 1965 I got a job as a trainee copywriter in an advertising agency.
   As a training for a career as a professional writer, penning ads for the likes of Wills cigars, Kelloggs cornflakes, and Wilkinson Sword razors could not have been bettered. In those days, many of the London agencies employed budding novelists of the likes of William Trevor, Salman Rushdie and Fay Weldon, and within weeks of joining the London Press Exchange, I was hard at work every night on my first work of fiction - a comic novel called French Polish.
   It found favour with a top literary agent but sadly not with a publisher. However, after a few years in a variety of agencies, including J. Walter Thompson, I got a job in the advertising department of The Times and The Sunday Times and met some of the editors who were kind enough to commission me to write travel articles and light-hearted pieces about London life in the Sixties.
   Journalism has always played a big part in my professional life and most of my books, fiction and non-fiction, were written alongside articles on any number of subjects - travel, television, restaurants, property, books - for any number of newspapers and magazines. And then there was radio. In the late Sixties, through introductions by an old BBC hand, I found myself writing light-hearted contributions to a weekly radio series based on items mined from the depth of the BBC Sound Archives - a department of BBC Radio for whom I have since written any number of programmes and devised many series of my own.
   One of my favourites was Something to Declare - a variety of conversations, reminiscences and revelations with famous travellers on all manner of subjects from sailing the Atlantic and crossing the Sahara to exploring the Amazon jungle and living beneath the ice in the Arctic.
   Another series of which I was especially proud was called Plain Tales from the Rhodendrons, produced by the brilliant Alastair Wilson, in which I returned to a corner of Surrey in which I was brought up during and after the war and interviewed as many of my parents’ friends as I could find and invited them to recall life in leafy Surrey during and at the very end of the Second World War.
   It was as a result of making that programme that I decided to turn much of the material and more into a fictional diary by a 12-year old schoolboy, not unlike myself. The title is A Nightingale Sang in Fernhurst Road. It was published by John Murray in 1999, was later dramatized by BBC Radio 4, and is a book of which I am especially fond.
   But I’m getting ahead of myself...
 
Which writers and poets most inspired you when you were young?
 
The man who I always claim to be the one responsible for my being a writer - and especially a humorist - was Ronald Wright. He was the Latin master at an eccentric prep school in Surrey I attended as a day boy during the late 1940s; but it was not until a number of us were, for reasons never explained, removed to become the founding few of a brand new school not far away in Westerham, and Mr Wright decided to join us, that I got to know him well.
   As well as continuing to teach us Latin and Greek he it was who introduced us to the writers, past and present, who would generate in all of us a love of English literature. I had never met, and never would again, meet anyone with a deeper knowledge of and passion for the greatest English poets and novelists, and it was entirely thanks to him that at an early age I became a huge fan of Dickens, Edgar Allen Poe, W.W.Jacobs, P.G.Wodehouse and Jerome K. Jerome.
   He had some old Strand magazines containing early Sherlock Holmes stories which I once read when laid low with ‘flu and was hooked for life.
   Studying Latin, Greek and Ancient History for A level at King’s, Canterbury, I was also very lucky to enjoy regular periods with S.S.Sopwith - an old boy of the school - who had been senior English master at Shrewsbury, and who introduced us to any number of writers whose names we might all too easily have missed: Spenser, Bacon, Henry Vaughan, Hazlitt, Charles Lamb and the wonderfully eccentric Sir Thomas Browne.
   When I was younger, like all my friends I got stuck into the likes of Arthur Ransome, Conan Doyle and John Buchan until we were overwhelmed by the countless stories, fiction and non-fiction, that came out of the Second World - The Cruel Sea, Reach for the Sky, The Wooden Horse and so on. It wasn’t until later, in my teens, that the idea that one could entertain and amuse grown-up readers about serious subjects came as quite a surprise, and for that I owe a great deal of thanks to the likes of Richard Gordon, John Mortimer and the man who wrote the best and funniest book ever about schoolmastering, Evelyn Waugh.
   I remember being introduced to Waugh by a fifteen-year-old boy who invited me round to his house to see his books. He seemed quite surprised when he pointed at his collection, in orange Penguin covers, of almost every one of Waugh’s novels, that I reacted with such obvious ignorance. Happily, I made up for in the months that followed in no uncertain terms.
 
What made you decide to write Now We Are Sixty?
 
Like so many good ideas, it came about purely by chance. John Murray had just published A Nightingale Sang in Fernhurst Road with some reasonably good reviews from Keith Waterhouse and Frank Muir, among others, and my editor asked if I had any other ideas for a follow-up. For some reason, I found myself telling him that I had once written a book called How to Survive Middle Age which had done quite well, adding that perhaps I should consider writing a follow-up. How I survived middle age and how I’m feeling now: that sort of thing.. We could call it something like Now We Are Sixty, I said.
   He seemed quite interested and asked what sort of book I had in mind. A sort of confessional perhaps? A diary? A sort of male Bridget Jones, perhaps? I confessed I hadn’t the faintest idea and on that disappointing note, I left the building.
   It was Alan Coren who came up with the answer.
   ‘Well,’ he said, 'you’ve nicked Milne’s title, so you might as well nick his poem.' He was, and always had been, a very good editor. And one of my closest friends.
 
Who has been your favourite collaborator?
 
Life is so much to do with luck and, looking back, I can’t believe how lucky I have been to work with so many extraordinary people, beginning in 1981 when Benny Green and I were asked by Colin Webb of Pavilion Books to compile an annotated edition of Three Men in a Boat.
   A great jazz musician and hugely well-read, Benny chose to concentrate largely on the social and historical background to the journey, while I explained the countless references to the dozens of locations, whether historical, or geographical, or purely eccentric, that distracted the attention of the three men from the daily routine of rowing, mooring, negotiating the many locks, and not bumping into the countless numbers of fellow oarsmen for whom a week or more on the Thames was the perfect antidote to the daily grind of office life in the city.
   Happily, our collaboration extended to a fortnight on the river with our friend and part-owner of Pavilion Books, Tim Rice, when the BBC, with Richard Denton at the production helm, filmed the three of us as we battled our way from Kingston to Oxford in a wooden camping skiff - exactly like the one the three men would have hired.
   I say ‘happily’, though Benny was extremely dubious about the whole project from the word go, partly because he had no intention of sleeping on the boat - or even pretending to - which Tim and I did, but mainly because he had never learnt to swim.
He also hadn’t the faintest idea how to row.
   However, being a pro, he finally agreed to lay his doubts and fears to one side, joined the boat at Maidenhead, proved that he was an even worse oarsman than we could have imagined, and quickly became a key member of the crew alongside Tim’s beloved boxer, Bonzo.
My next collaborator in 2003 was Alan Coren. The idea for Freedom Pass occurred to one of us (we could never remember which) during one of our many lunches upstairs at The Queen’s at Primrose Hill. We were discussing entitlement and how we both felt when we walked into the chemist to claim our first free prescription.
   For Alan it was not a moment to savour - not because he didn’t think he deserved it, but because it was the first time he’d declared himself in public to be old. Well, sixty anyway. Indeed, for some time he went on paying, as usual. I seem to remember confessing that I was far less self-conscious and quoted Othello’s line about having done the state some service, and wanted to know if he felt the same way about travelling free on London Transport.
   It was shortly after that that we found ourselves wondering why we confined our conversations, memories, apercus to the bar at The Queen’s when we could do the very same thing while travelling around London on public transport - visiting old haunts, solving long-held mysteries, getting lost, entertaining ourselves alongside anyone who happened to turn on their radios. And all for free.
   And so it was that we travelled to Enfield in search of a shop that sold tortoises, to Dulwich to see the house where I was born, to Greenwich to re-live Alan’s memories of being rowed down the Thames dressed as George 111, to Highgate because we happened to see a bus going there, and to the Aviary in London Zoo to see if a bird I had once sponsored was still alive. We even went to Southend where Alan used to be taken on holiday as a child and at fish and chips on the longest pier in Britain.
   As a travelling companion and programme collaborator, Alan, was an unending joy - until he died (he did apologise first), whereupon Des Lynam volunteered to take his place in a series called Touchline Tales in which we visited a variety of small, local sporting events. We went to a gymkhana in Sussex; a golf day at Blackheath; a rugger match at Rugby school; and a fishing competition under the White Cliffs of Dover.
   Des’s dry humour (often at my expense) was huge entertaining, the only drawback being that wherever we went, people wanted to come up and talk with him while I stood nearby with a silly smile on my face. By the time he called it a day, I had acquired some idea of what it must have been like to have been Princess Margaret’s lady-in-waiting.
   Sadly I was able to do only one Freedom Pass-type programme with Terry Waite when we travelled by bus to St Paul’s, where we visited the crypt and the Chapel of the Order of the British Empire of which he is a member, before moving gently down the Strand and Whitehall to Lambeth Palace where he once worked for Archbishop Runcie. His stories about his years of imprisonment in Beirut were, and are, unforgettable.
 Finally, between 2013 and 2017, I made a series of delightful programmes with another old friend, Martin Jarvis, during which we traced our lives from our childhoods in South London and Surrey (Grey Shorts and Sandals), via our early efforts (Setting Out) and eventual successes (Hanging In) to our impending dotage (Grey Hairs and Bus Passes) which we recorded on the Royal Hospital, Chelsea.
Given the above cast, how could I possibly pick a winner?
 
What do you think about the state of modern poetry?
 
I’m still hard at work trying to decipher The Wasteland - and have been since it was introduced to the Classical Sixth by Mr Sopwith in 1956.
 
What are your personal favourites from each area of endeavour?

As far as fiction goes, I have always had a soft spot for A Nightingale Sang in Fernhurst Road; and given that it is my only genuine best seller, Now We are Sixty has to be my poetic Top of the Pops. As for my forays into the world of broadcasting, I never had more fun than I did with Alan in Freedom Pass. Some have gone so far as to suggest that it set in motion a trend for programmes, in radio and on television, comprising two friends out on the loose, doing what they like doing best and exchanging occasional words of wisdom amid the jokes.
 
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INTERVIEW WITH DONOVAN (FROM 2013)

9/17/2024

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Here's one from the Hound Dawg archives, a 2013 interview with 60s icon DONOVAN. It features in HOUND DAWG Issue 21 and focused on Donovan's rich back catalogue. 

​You can read it below....

Hi Don. The new release is the Sensual Donovan. Could you tell us a little about when and where these tracks were recorded?

I recorded   these   tracks in The Factory   Studio LA in 1970. My dear friend  John  Phillips (Mamas &  Papas) produced  the initial   recordings  and  I  took Production over   35  years  later. So Co-produced by John Philips and Donovan.  The  band  is  The Crusaders .  

What are you memories of recording these songs?  


It  was  such a  joy  and  so  like me  to  create  another  mad Donovan Genre. Although  Jazz  is  no  stranger  to my  albums, The  Crusaders are  a  Fusion  and at  the  time   were   the  hot studio sound. Joe Sample, Wilton Felder and David  T  Walker, cool players par excellence. I can’t recall the drummer but I think Bobbie Hall was percussionist.  During  mixing Rod  Callan  and  I  heard  a rattling  jingle and couldn’t  figure what  it was, on David  T Walkers’ guitar tracks. Then Rod finally sussed it , it  was his Jewelry  on his  arm  as he played  the  guitar. It was in tempo so it works!    

Do you think it's important to release these songs? Perhaps they are a link between the sixties material and the seventies?  


I  re-discovered  the  masters  in 400  Analog  Tapes   in  my archive  and  thought  I  will finish the   tracking  and   mix  it  in The Works  Studio  Dublin,  with  Rod Callan  the  owner  of  the  studio then. I put on the horns that Wilton Felder    would have done.  The horn players were Michael Buckley (who co arranged with me) and Ronan Dooney.  The female vocal   on Only You and Hotel Lonely is Susanne Bushnell. I added some sample strings. When  I  found  the masters  again, I  wanted  to honour  John  Phillips who  has passed  on. And  also to release The  Sensual  Donovan, a  sexy warm sound  for  the Winter Holidays 2012 /2013,  for lovers and  families  to  cuddle  up by the  fire  and   just  get  Mellow with   the   smooth  easy   grooves that I made with the great Crusaders  and  Bobby  Hall  and the  Irish  Horn  players I mention above. Smooth and Sexy. Ha Ha.  

It's the latest in a massive catalogue. Looking back over 50 years, how do you see your work as an artist has changed, or perhaps progressed?  


Always  fusing   new  sounds and production  ideas,  recording  is such a  great  art  to  be  in. I  don’t think  of  its  release, just  the  act of  tracking  and   overdubbing and  mixing, it’s  magic. Of  course  the sounds  change   but  within  each production  is  the  Poet, the  Lyric and  the  Guitar. My  accents  and character  voices  change  too  for the  style  and  tone  of  the  poems.       

When writing a song, what comes first? Is it often a chord progression, a title even? How does the creative process usually begin with you?  


This  famous   question  can  never be  answered... sometimes a phrase I  hear said or read  and  a  melody for it pops into my consciousness ... from  where? Or  a playing  of  a  style  of  guitar  or  early acoustic guitar  country  blues, in an  old  1940's  bungalow  in Santa Monica, and  a  tune  will appear sounding  like  the  period the  old house  was built. The  creative process  is  half  way  between concentrating  and dreaming,  I pick  up the  guitar  and  open  the possibilities   by  singing  the classic  Jazz Blues    chord  shapes  that  I  taught  George  Harrison and Lennon  and  McCartney,  the ones  they  missed   that  is,  when they  learned  every  early  Pop Chord Progression in Hamburg night  after  night in The Star Club.

I would love to ask about a Gift from a Flower to a Garden, my favourite of your records. Was it difficult to persuade the label to release the first double album? Also, what are your memories of writing and recording it?      


When  Clive  Davis  saw  the artwork  and  heard   there  was one  disc  for   young  parents  and one  for  their  just  being  born kids, he  didn’t want  a  double album. 7 colour separations, fine art paper and a box! He said 'Classical gets a box, Jazz gets a box but  Pop  Music  doesn’t.  I said ‘but I want one. It  would be the first Sixties Music Box.’ He said 'You  will  have  to  pay for  it  out  of  your  royalties.’ I said ‘okay’. Then he  insisted   the 2 discs  be  released  as  separate before  Christmas and  the  box after Christmas. The 2 discs reads above    in the   100's in the chart before Christmas. When  the  box was  released   in  the  new  year  it went  GOLD! So  my  dear  art director  friend  Sid  Maurer  who did  every  album  cover in NYC at  the  time  for  all  labels,  and had designed The Gift Box with me, called up Clive and said, 'Clive? You blew it and Donovan was right!’ Haha. Clive had missed the Christmas market with my Gift to the world!  Then  George  Harrison  did  'All Things  Must  Pass'  and  he  asked EMI  for  a  Box  Set, they  said 'Classical  gets  a  box,  Jazz gets a Box  but  Pop  doesn’t  get a  Box'. And George, who had become my dear friend on the path said to EMI, 'Donovan got one!’ So George got his box but of course paid for  it  out  of  his royalties. Haha.   

Of all the albums you've done, which was your favourite, and the most fun to create?  


Hard to say... perhaps Sunshine Superman, the album. But then again, Barbajagal was a gas to record.  

About the Hurdy Gurdy Man book, how long did it take to write? Was it hard remembering everything?  


It was being written over many years in bits. I guess 10 years on and off. To remember periods all I had to do was put the music on from the time. And notebooks and diaries.  

The first book was very well received. Do you think you may write a second volume, seeing as it ends in 1970?  


Watch my  website  as  I  serialize the next  part The Seventies and read  it,  each  part each month from the  new Lunar  Year February  2013 to February  2014.  

There has definitely been a resurgence of interest in your work and the past few years have seen you finally getting the recognition I think you deserve. How has it been to experience this, with the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the clear interest in your songs and your ideals?  

I was always an outsider. But those that knew, knew what I was doing. The Hall of Fame was a singular honour and just in time, not late at all. I believe the sixties way of recording and the whole lyrical outlook is coming back now.

Why do you think maybe the music of that time is still such a big draw to people?  


The 1960s galvanized the recording techniques and we Bohemian artists invaded popular culture and took over the airwaves. Poets reclaimed music and all The Arts were again free from 2 wars and a depression. Such a renaissance comes only occasionally and with it comes Self Discovery and many ways to heal a broken world. Since the Sixties doors were opened, the new Artists can now run through them and create anything they want to.  It was not always so.

​Go check Donovan's site:

www.donovan.ie  

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AN INTERVIEW WITH LEGENDARY AUTHOR MICHAEL MOORCOCK

9/4/2024

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​Michael Moorcock has been one of the most popular and prolific names in what we call science fiction since the 1950s. Though his many readers and Moorcock himself would not dub his work SF, or limit it to any category in fact, there is no getting away from the fact that he’s one of the most important names in the history of the genre. Born in 1939, Moorcock began his writing career as editor of New Worlds Magazine and has written dozens of novels and countless short stories. One of his most popular characters is the mysterious and enigmatic Jerry Cornelius, a man (is he a man?) whose adventures can take him to nay time and any place. I was honoured to ask Michael about the origins of Jerry Cornelius, the places his character has been over the years, and where he plans to take him next.
 
You've been a writer and editor for so long now, and written in so many styles and genres, but I wondered if you remembered first coming up with the character of Jerry Cornelius.  
 
I remember it very clearly. I was sitting in a cafe on the corner where Portobello and Kensington Park Road divide when I saw a good-looking young man with long, fine hair walking towards me.   Behind him  at Notting Hill gate was a greengrocer called  Cornelius of  London. I  had been looking for a character with a European name and gender unspecific appearance and there he was! Probably October 1964.  In January 1965, with two very young babies to take care of, I wrote the book in ten days, sometimes feeding the babies so my wife would not have to get up. We were living at 8 Colville Terrace,  a rackman-controlled slum  at the time. In 65 we moved to 87 Ladbroke Grove,  thanks  to Mrs Pash who ran the musical instrument shop in Elgin Crescent and she was  moving.  For a while nobody would buy the book until eventually Allison and Busby, just starting, took on that and behold the man. Avon books in the USA were very enthusiastic and in 1967 when New Worlds went to large size, I began a sequel which I wrote in monthly parts as a serial, A Cure for Cancer, illustrated by Mal Dean, who established the graphic appearance of the character.
 
What I love about Cornelius is that he can be anywhere, in any place or time, and we accept that fact every time we read about him. Was it and is it liberating to be able to bend your stories into all kinds of shapes, time periods and tones, and have a character you are able to do that with?  
 
That’s why I created him! I wanted a myth figure for the 20th century then and now one for the 21st—a figure who could represent rapidly changing times. I wanted, as I put it, a character and a kind of story which could be cool in hot times! One who could respond to the present as rapidly as possible.
 
There are many novels and short stories featuring Cornelius. Which ones did you enjoy writing the most, and which ones challenged you as a writer? Do you have any you are happier with than others?
 
I enjoyed writing almost all of them. It’s easier to think of the ones I didn’t feel were particularly successful. I need to forget about ‘Pegging the President’ which I wrote about Trump. I was far too angry with Trump and the story isn’t that cool at all! It did not do what it was supposed to do. My most recent, which will appear in New Worlds later this year, is one of my best, if not the best short, and is called ‘Wigan!’. I think it’s one of the best I’ve written. Illustrated by Mark Reeve, who is a fine successor to Mal Dean.
 
Other writers have written Cornelius stories, and you've even encouraged them to do so. It's very rare that an author will pass a character on to a contemporary. Do you think more writers should allow their characters to be adaptable and not be as possessive of their creations?  
 
M. John Harrison, who wrote three of the best, said that Jerry was not so much a character as a technique and I’m inclined to agree with him. He stopped writing them because he felt Jerry was ‘a  character for the sixties’. I strongly disagreed with that. Some of the best stories are those written since the sixties – I think of The Entropy Tango, The Spencer Inheritance and Cheering for the Rockets which were written in  the 70s, 90s and 2000s and were all I think pretty successful stories, all dealing with ‘hot’ issues of the day and lasting pretty well now!
 
People use the word fantasy and sf when talking about your work,  but I've never seen your stories as escapism. In fact they often mirror real life more than a lot of supposedly "realistic" fiction. How important is it for you that your writing works as satire and commentary while also being a highly readable story in its own right?  
 
I have never seen the Cornelius stories, in particular, as sf, fantasy or, indeed, ‘spy’ stories.  They are sui  generis, intended to work as a form of literature for modern times. It’s very important to me for the stories to be understood as, I suppose, absurdest, yet serious, commentary on issues which are both of our day and speaking universally.   
 
On the subject of genres, do you feel that categorisation limits what a lot of readers might delve into, or do you see the tags as useful for the writer and the reader alike? (For example, I have heard people who claim they do not like sf then reading one of your books and loving it.)  
 
I have found the same. Early books of mine were generic sf, without a doubt, and like the early fantasy were written to support New Worlds and my family. All books since The Warhound and the World’s Pain, Gloriana, Mother London, the Pyat Quartet and various others were books not intended to be read as generic books. The Dancers at the End of Time was an odd book in that I forgot to put the sf in the final volume and had to go back and rewrite it to add an sf element. Behold the man – the novel – was not written as a generic book, either! Sadly some people read an early sf or fantasy book and judge my work according to that, while booksellers insist on shelving my books as sf or fantasy when I have always believed in books being shelved by author!
 
I always look at Cornelius in a similar way to Pilgrim's Progress, or even Lindsay Anderson's Mick Travis in his trilogy starting with if.... Do you have any more plans for the character in the future?  
 
The Pilgrim’s Progress was the very first book I bought with my own  money – a shilling (5p) given to me for my birthday by a neighbour. I read it and came to understand  that a book  should contain a plot, characters who represented some sort of moral quality, some sort of moral intention, social observation and a dynamic (not necessarily linear) structure which maintains the reader’s attention. I have tried to offer the reader those same qualities ever since, only to be judged by some as formless, presumably because, as in my current ‘Whitefriars’ novels, I have  not provided them with a linear story-line! Frequently the books have both!
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NEW Q AND A WITH HORROR AUTHOR GRAHAM MASTERTON

8/29/2024

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INTERVIEW WITH GRAHAM MASTERTON
AUG 2024
 
Graham Masterton is a legendary British writer, known primarily for his horror fiction, though he has written prolifically in many areas. He’s authored dozens of books over the past few decades and has a huge readership the world over. I got in touch with Graham recently to see if he might indulge me and answer some questions about a book of his called The House That Jack Built, a chilling horror tale which was published over thirty years ago. I was pleasantly surprised that Graham not only answered me, but also said he would happily take time out of his schedule to answer my questions. It’s a book that genuinely frightened me, wrapped itself around my psyche, and one which I read compulsively. If you are a fellow fan of Masterton and The House That Jack Built in particular, you might find these responses interesting. So here they are…
 
You were already well established by the mid 90s when The House That Jack Built came out. I wondered if you remembered how you came up with the initial idea for the book. Did anything specific inspire it? How do such books come about?
 
I started spending a lot of time in New York in the 1970s because I was the editor of Penthouse magazine in the UK and I was helping to bring out the new US edition of Penthouse to challenge Playboy on its own turf. After I quit Penthouse I still visited New York regularly because I was mainly publishing my sex instruction books and novels in the US, and my agent lived there. My late wife Wiescka and I took a trip up the Hudson River one weekend and we saw some remarkable houses up there, like Lyndhurst Mansion at Tarrytown. I combined those houses with the characters of some of the tycoons I had met during my time on Penthouse, including the owner and publisher Bob Guccione, who at one time owned the largest private house in Manhattan. I liked Bob a lot, but he could be bombastic, and although he was wealthy, he was given to starting up doomed enterprises like casinos and magazines, rather like Donald Trump. I was trained as a newspaper reporter, so I have always had the facility to combine one arresting feature or incident with another, to create a story, and that is how the idea of The House That Jack Built was germinated.
 
It begins with such a disturbing scene, but it's also a perfect beginning because it stuns and pulls you straight in. How important do you feel it is to come up with such an arresting opening chapter, especially in horror?
 
For horror stories, I think it’s essential. It’s the same as a news story – you should catch your readers’ attention and start their adrenaline pumping from the very beginning. After all, that’s why people read horror novels – to be excited and frightened but know at the same time that they are not in any real danger.
 
The character of Jack Belias haunts me to this day. Did anyone else inspire him?
 
Bob Guccione, as I have mentioned. There was no doubt that he had a charisma that was almost tangible. And one or two other American business people that I met, such as Albert Freedman, who was caught in the 1950s fixing a TV quiz show called Twenty-One by giving the winning contestants the answers in advance and paying the losing contestants to fail.
 
The characters are so vivid and at times relatable in The House That Jack Built, but Craig is such a flawed man from the start. Was it unsettling for you to explore the psyche of that character as Jack burrowed himself more and more into his very being?
 
I found it interesting, not unsettling. My training as a newspaper reporter gave me the skill to question people’s motives and their personality traits without holding back – a technique which eventually led to my writing sex instruction books such as How To Drive Your Man Wild In Bed based on a real conversations with real people.
 
At the end, Effie moves on in her life. Did you ever think what might have become of her? Do you ever think about what characters might do after the story is told?
 
Sometimes I think of writing sequels. Very few of my books were originally written with a series in mind, like Rook the college teacher with psychic insight, or Night Warriors about ordinary people who become battling heroes in dreams. A classic example is my series about the Irish detective Katie Maguire, which started off as a stand-alone thriller. The twelfth Katie Maguire novel Pay Back The Devil will be published this October.
 
Did The House That Jack Built do well upon release? You have mentioned that the early 90s were a weird time for horror fiction because for some reason sales dipped. 
 
You’re right, and horror sales did dip dramatically in the 90s. My publisher Simon & Schuster did not want to publish The House That Jack Built but I sold it to Carroll & Graf as a hardback and Leisure Books as a paperback and it sold very respectably.
 
You grew up reading horror masters like Poe and Lovecraft. Other than how to weave a masterful horror tale, what did you learn from them on a technical level? I see a direct link with the genre's original masters and your own prose, which is smooth and so carefully written at the same time as being hugely engaging.
 
What I mainly learned from Poe and Lovecraft was not to be afraid of writing about any kind of horrific scenario, no matter how absurd it may seem, because if you write it with conviction, your readers will suspend their disbelief, at least for as long as they are reading it. Dwarves being suspended from the ceiling and set on fire, for example, which is not something you see every day. I liked some of Lovecraft’s characters, such as Brown Jenkin, who I pinched for my novel Prey, but I am not a great fan of his style, particularly the way he gets all hysterical at the end of story. 
 
A little off topic, but as a huge admirer of the Beat writers, what did you learn from the like of Allen Ginsberg and William S Burroughs, both as men and as writers?
 
From Allen Ginsberg I learned not to allow a jet-lagged Beat poet with greasy hair to lie on the floor and fall asleep so that he stained my new pale Italian suede shoes (I was a Mod). From William Burroughs I learned never to be afraid to write about anything, no matter how explicit. He and I also worked many hours together on language, taking it apart like a car engine and putting it back together again so that it purred. In other words, we worked on writing rhythmic sentences with simple words so that the readers would not be aware they were actually reading, but would feel they were actually inside the story. We also wrote a ‘cut-up’ novel together Rules of Duel to explore the concept of writing a sentence and then cutting it up so that it had a new meaning. From William I also learned not to go to Lebanese restaurants and get so drunk that he shouted ‘Bomb the Ay-rabs!’ and was politely asked by the management to leave. The artist and writer Brion Gysin and I managed to drag him home across Trafalgar Square.
 
With so much published now, how do you keep your mind so fresh and adaptable to different genres and subjects?
 
I am always on the lookout for new ideas. Again, I think it’s another result of my newspaper training. I have just finished a new horror novel House of Flies which combines recent outbreaks of flies with Old Testament stories. I am also co-authoring stories with two younger writers, Dawn G Harris and Karolina Mogielska. Dawn has published her first supernatural novel Diviner and co-authored horror stories with me in an anthology called Days Of Utter Dread, while Karolina and I have published several major horror stories together in four different languages as chapbooks, such as The Dark Days of Christmas, published by Phantasmagoria Books. Dawn and Karolina and I are very much in tune with each other in our thinking and our writing, and it is really refreshing to work with them.
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