(Dr Feelgood)
Hound Dawg Issue 14, September 2011
One of the most eccentric characters in the history of rock, Wilko Johnson was a real one off. With his famous chopping guitar style, mad eyes and manic stage presence, Wilko pre dated the angry urgency of punk and arguably invented the genre itself. As the head axe man of Dr Feelgood, then as a Blockhead and eventual solo star, Wilko was a man for all seasons. When I spoke to him he was full of energy, humour and good spirit. A true icon of the guitar.
Do you still enjoy touring and how do you keep your energy up for them?
Well I don’t really know. Me, I’m a fairly morose sort of a person, and I spend most of my time wallowing around feeling sorry for myself. But I do think that when I step on to the stage I feel… I dunno I just feel like I’m living again. I suppose that’s it. You can be going to a gig and you think Oh man I don’t wanna go to this gig. I’d give a thousand pound not to go to this gig. But as soon as you get on to stage it all just starts happening and I dunno, I’m a sucker for it.
Has it always been that way then or is that just recently?
Uhhh…. Well it all goes back a long way dunnit? Probably that’s my modus operandi in recent times.
I think the way you sort of lose yourself on stage, that’s the main attraction and the main influence that people see in you. You just sort of go into a different zone don’t you?
Well I think that’s it. The minutes before you go on a stage... usually I pace about. I get terrible trouble about this. I do this pacing. I pace around. It’s always in an anti clockwise direction. I’ve even checked this out in Australia, right and it goes anti clockwise there so it’s nothing to do with the gravity or the motion of the earth or anything. I think it may be I’ve got one leg shorter than the other. You think, man you’re getting nervous and things like that. Then you walk out on the stage and you plug in…. 1, 2, 3, 4 and you just go into a different kind of consciousness I think. It’s a good place to go to.
Who were your first guitar heroes then?
Well when I first began playing I really didn’t know anything about music, this is in the early 60s, when the Beatles were emerging you know. I just didn’t know anything. Then I heard a Johnny Kidd and the Pirates record and I heard the guitar playing of Mick Green and I was knocked out by what he was doing and I thought “That’s what I wanna do!” From then on I wanted to play the guitar, not trying to copy Mick Green, but I certainly learnt a lot from listening to him.
But your playing style, has it always been unusual with the thumb? Or did you used to play with a pic?
I don’t use a plectrum and that’s because I am left handed and when I first started to play I was holding it backwards like Paul McCartney and Hendrix, and I was a really slow learner and I was crap and everything. After a while I decided to try and learn to play right handed, which is a very difficult thing to do because it sort of goes against all your instinct. But I really wanted to learn to play right handed. In the process, hanging on to a plectrum was too much so I just did without. There’s no musical reason for me not using a plectrum, probably the style I play is done better with a plectrum, but there you go, I got to do without. And bloody fingers and all sorts of things have resulted, you know…
The thing is, your style has come about by accident hasn’t it? But it’s been really influential over the years. Is it weird to think that guitarists are still influenced by you?
It’s always strange because I had my heroes and I’ve gone through this process to try and take on something from someone else and that and I know what that feels like. It’s strange when I encounter people who have come from an influence from me or other musicians I know of who have been influenced by me, it’s very flattering but kind of strange because I always think of my own playing as something that’s been bodged together from various influences without any serious purpose. So my playing seems a sort of rag bag in many ways. But if people are imitating it then it means people dig it, which is very, very nice!
The line ups you’ve been in, obviously Dr Feelgood, then The Solid Senders and Ian Dury and the Blockheads, the one you are in now seems more together and a lot more comfortable for you I think. I don’t know if that’s true or...
Well I must say that the band I’ve got now is absolutely far and away the best band I have ever had. I’ve been very lucky like this. As time has gone on and I’ve kind of succeeded or failed to whatever degree, the band I have got and the people around me have just got better and better. See, I’ve got Norman Watt-Roy on the bass and enough said. That guy on the bass is enough to make your band good. And now we got Dylan Howe on the drums... God he’s a good drummer! He is such a good drummer. And the band now is so good. I can just stop playing and clown about and the thing keeps going. As well as that the personalities are… Norman’s a very, very, very, very good bloke, as is Dylan, and we just got a kind of friendly relationship that I think it is just possible to absolutely enjoy playing and sod everything else. Just really enjoy it.
Was being in the Feelgoods different due to dynamics and personalities and characters and stuff?
I have to say that, certainly towards the end, there were serious personality clashes, which was a shame because Dr Feelgood, we started out as a local amateur band. We started a band for fun, just to play for kicks and we were very good mates. I like to look back on Dr Feelgood, the times we were together and all good friends and laughing a lot. As we got more successful and all that started happening, you get…. it sounds crummy, but it does turn into a bit of a strain. It just led to, I dunno… as I said earlier, I’m a bit of a miserable so-and-so and this isolated me a bit from the others and it just built up and up and became intolerable in the end which is a shame. A terrible shame. And I don’t really like to look back on that. I like to remember the good times and the good feelings, rather than the unhappy way it ended up.
Dr Feelgood were such a massive band at the time. Nowadays do you think the popularity is coming back because of the Julian Temple film, Oil City Confidential?
Certainly that film has given a boost to our activities and yes Dr Feelgood did kind of get lost in history. The whole punk movement followed hard on the heels of Dr Feelgood and we split up just after that time. And it kind of meant that just at that moment, the Feelgoods were forgotten about in many ways. Julian Temple felt this and one of the reasons he wanted to make the film was to try and make that good. I think it’s a great film and has introduced a lot of people to Dr Feelgood, something they didn’t know about before, which is nice.
I think your energy in the documentary is the most engaging part of it, because you are so enthusiastic about it.
Well it is great! When I was first told that Julian Temple wanted to do this film, I was quite surprised that this famous film maker wanted to do something about us... that was a surprise. My other thought was how on earth can he do it? Dr Feelgood existed in the pre video days and very little footage exists. And I’m thinking how can he do it? I took part in it, he was making the film but I didn’t see anything of the film. When it was completed they gave me a DVD but I didn’t look at it. I am always a bit weird about listening to my own records or watching myself. In the end when the film was premiered, I obviously had to go and see it and the film started... well, it was great! Because it was something long ago for me, I was looking at it as a kind of spectator. I had never seen Dr Feelgood before if you like and seeing the live bits up there on the screen I was thinking Bloody hell, pretty good! Yeah, all around pretty good. Certainly done us a lot of good that film.
That line up was brilliant though wasn’t it?
Absolutely! There has been a noticeable effect, a whole kind of new audience that didn’t know about me or Dr feelgood before this time. We like plenty of people to come in!
So you’re looking forward to touring then?
Oh yeah, yeah. Form the depths of my misery.

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